23 thoughts on - OT: Blank Mails From This List

• I haven’t seen what you describe myself.

  Does Outlook 2013 allow you to “View Message Source”? If so, see what’s actually there.

• Hi and thanks for the swift feedback!

  Outlook doesn’t do that by itself, but I have an addin that might help –
  Pocketknife Peek – if it’s still compatible with this version of Outlook.

• Ok, can view the source now. AFAICT, it looks “normal”. Lots of filtering, scores, senders, GPS-coordinates to the Melville Theatre etc.

  Am I looking for something in particular?

• I was assuming you were looking for the message text.

  Exchange has always seemed to struggle with various multipart emails, and I’ve seen signed messages come through as blank, but you can view the content in the source.

  jh

• Theatre I’ve in

  Aha, I thought I was looking for settings or some such. :-)

  In any case, Outlook seems to show the message text if I double-click the message as opposed to viewing it in the reading pane.

  It’s probably got nothing to do with the list itself.

  Thanks for the feedback all!

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  ‘GPS’ ???

  if you mean;

  (static24-72-131-56.yk.rev.accesscomm.ca [24.72.131.56])
  (mutt.melvilletheatre.net [192.168.0.3])

  those are ip addresses, ‘internet protocol addresses’.

  1st is Frank’s isp, ‘internet service provider’.
  2nd is Frank’s local network.

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  when you look at source, look for something like;

  Content-Type:
  Content-Transfer-Encoding:

  which tells how email body is written.

• Theatre

  Yes, map coordinates. :-)
  See below.

  X-CanIt-Geo: ip 8.100.23.70; country=US; region=Illinois; city=Chicago;
  latitudeA.8776; longitude=-87.6272;
  http://maps.google.com/maps?qA.8776,-87.6272&z=6

  Looked for the encoding and content types but couldn’t see anything that might be a concern. The problem seems to occur with all sorts of content types and encoding. I’ve now installed Office 2016, and the same problem occurs, only worse. Now it’s with nearly all mail.

  Dammit’ Microsoft…

  //Sorin

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  possibly something your email client or source reader is adding?

  ria, i know Frank is not in chicago.

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  read my sig, then install thunderbird.

• Irrelevant. It’s Exchange that messes things up. Switching to tb will most likely not help.

  Set yourself up with a personal email account that is not going through Exchange, subscribe to this list, and then compare the full messages, headers and all, from both sources. This place of ork uses O365, and the Exchange server is adding so much crap to headers and body that message size triples or worse. Certain MIME types break. MS
  support doesn’t have the technical background to understand these issues when you open a case.

• I have seen blank body (but still with the list’s .sig) emails for a while on my android phone. The email shows up fine in Thunderbird on CentOS (well, I say ‘fine’ when in reality it was unbearably tiny text until I installed the ‘no small text’ extension; the CentOS 7
  Thunderbird does not have some of the knobs you are supposed to adjust to fix this (it’s the font size for the message encoding, and the encoding needed is not in the dropdowns in the C7 Thunderbird, and I’m assuming that’s an upstream issue, but I’ve not taken the time to file a bug report yet) so an extension is required. The thread preview pane still has unbearably tiny text, but at least when opening the message the text is large enough to read; the Thunderbird tiny text problem is a well-known one).

  Several messages from Karanbir and Johnny were some that the android phone (Samsung Galaxy S5) shows an empty (except for the .sig) body.
  Again, not something I’ve taken the time to file a bug report on, since I mainly read the CentOS lists on my laptop after Thunderbird’s filters pull them in my CentOS lists folders (which pulls them to local folders and off of the imap server).

• city=Chicago;

  Could be. Exchange does a lot of weird things, as I understood it from the central IT-support.

  LOL!

  Well, it T-bird doesn’t do Exchange very well. At least not when I tried a few months ago. :-)

  In any case, I’ll toss this to the mentioned central support and the mail admins. See if they can make heads or tails of this, other than reinstall everything.

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  Do you use Exchange at your workplace as well?

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  glad you enjoyed.

  sad thing is it is very true.

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  nothing does exchange very well, including all from oos. ;=)

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  if central support and admins reject thunderbird, they need to be wearing ‘Depends’.

  btw; do you know Valeri Galtsev

• I’m a boy ;-) (yes, some names are weird)

  Valeri

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  Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247
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• *snip*

  Me too – I choose Alice Wonder online because of an affinity to Lewis Carroll – and Alice entering a world where the rules of the world she came from just didn’t apply.

  I thought Alice Wonder would give away that it is a handle and not a real name and therefore not a gender indicator, but for some people –
  despite Alice Cooper – it is a gender identifier.

  It’s okay, I don’t mind, English doesn’t really have a gender neutral pronoun and so some authors have started using she instead of he when neutral is intended just to make a point.

  My actual name is Michael, which while typically male. I have for the record seen used with both genders despite the name Michelle existing. So I guess by choosing Alice I am kind of bringing it on myself.

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  aware that Valeri is ‘both ways’. 8=)

  did not know which way you are. ;=)

  some with weird names are weirder than their names. in many ways.

• geo.inbox.ignored wrote:

  I assumed it was a male name… but then, I have some idea about various European names. I’d have to see Valerie before I thought it was a female name.

  What’s *really* bad is trying to figure how to pronounce someone’s name with a “j” in it – is the letter pronounced “jay”, or as a “y”, or as an
  “h”….

  mark “let’s not even *mention* Mandarin, which is tonal….”

• No.

• You guys are just hillarious… X-D

• Thanks.

  I’ll just add this to the list of things to learn to live with.

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  :-D happy :-D happy :-D happy :-D

• Believe it or not: just the other day I saw _your_ spelling of the word hilarious: hillarious – implying “voted for “Hillary” ;-)

  Valeri (in attempt to stay hilarious)

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  Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247
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• I apologise, no politics were intended!
  FWIW, English is not my native language, and I tend to add letters following the spelling rules of my own native language out of habit or figuring I’m doing it right using UK English (which is what I learned in school). :-)