10 thoughts on - OT: Good Free Email Service ?

• https://protonmail.com/

• Aside from semi-charitable organizations like that, I wouldn’t expect good free email service to exist. It’s seriously complicated to run a properly-configured email server.

  The last time I looked into it, there were something like 24 separate RFCs an SMTP-only server had to implement, and much of that complexity spills over into the administration side, such as DKIM setup. Then you have everything outside of the protocol such as spam filtering, blacklist/greylist/whitelist maintenance, TLS key updates, OS updates, etc.

  Expect to pay for what you use, either by throwing a whole lot of your own time at it or paying someone to spend that time on your behalf. Unless you’re doing this for educational or professional reasons, where the time spent is paid back handsomely, it’s probably a better trade to pay someone to handle it for you.

• Plus there’s constantly dealing with spam lists.

  I run my own, using postfix + dovecot + roundcube, but because I can’t afford my own subnet – I end up constantly on spam blacklists when someone else on my subnet sends spam.

  The blacklists don’t care that I’ve had these IP addresses for years, never spam, etc. – they just see someone on the subnet spam and they blacklist the entire subnet and you have to fill out their form to get removed, often to just be added again in a week.

  It’s a real pain the arse.

• Plus there’s constantly dealing with spam lists.

  I run my own, using postfix + dovecot + roundcube, but because I can’t 
  afford my own subnet – I end up constantly on spam blacklists when 
  someone else on my subnet sends spam.

  The blacklists don’t care that I’ve had these IP addresses for years, 
  never spam, etc. – they just see someone on the subnet spam and they 
  blacklist the entire subnet and you have to fill out their form to get 
  removed, often to just be added again in a week.

  It’s a real pain the arse.

• FWIW, I used to run my mail server at home, on my own private IP
  (through my ISP). When I moved, in May, I had to switch providers and they didn’t offer static IP for home users, so I’ve moved my DNS and mail server to the cloud.

  Between the two of them, they cost me about $50/month…not cheap, but my IP isn’t automatically on blacklists and I control everything, including inbound spam protection.

  —
  Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org

  “It’s always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that. No one ever just stops by to say ‘hi’ anymore.” –Colonel Jack O’Neill, SG1

• *snip*

  I use Linode – sometimes it will go many months w/o being put on a blacklist, sometimes its a lot more common, I think they rotate IP
  assignment and when unused IP addresses on my subnet are not being assigned to new accounts there is no issue.

  I just wish the spam lists would do a better job at realizing a well-aged domain that’s been on the same IP address for years isn’t a spammer and shouldn’t be part of the blacklist.

  In many respects I see it as a net neutrality issue, pushing everyone into the big providers that do their own share of spamming yet are never blacklisted because they are too big to blacklist.

  I’m thinking about trying to design a DKIM based white list, e.g. if DKIM validates from aged domain that doesn’t have positive spaminess to it, skip the IP based spam checks.

  But even if I came up with something, the big e-mail companies wouldn’t care to use it, they have no financial motive to and every financial motive not to (forces users into their tracking ecosystem)

• +1 on Protonmail!
  I like their mindset.

  My private mail is on Gmail. I use Yahoo for signing up on stuff, where I expect spam to be, uh, expected.

• Le 11/11/2018 à 00:55, Alice Wonder a écrit :

  I’ve been running my own mail server for the last five years or so. In my humble experience, spam lists are about as subtle and discerning as the bouncer at the door of our local night club. Everyone who’s even remotely non-white doesn’t get in. You may be a doctor or a teacher, he just won’t care. On the other hand, all rednecks are welcome.

  :o)

  Niki

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